One of the dream sequences had what I think was Zilpha with a masked figure - presumably James - standing over her. He said "she would sing" to him if she was dead and he would see it. She tells him that he has to sign the contract first. They couldn't vote, or inherit property. I found myself invested in both characters separately but not their relationship with each other. She was my least favorite character and I was glad to see her go tbh. You didn't even use that as a better explanation. I totally get what you are saying but it seems too obvious. So Zilpha knows nothing of what happened to her boy. It was cute that the perverted chemist was acting almost like a father figure to the poor waif. Him morning her after she"sang" to him wasn't a surprise. His rejection of her, his severing of their relationship, was too much for her to deal with, and to escape the pain and the longing she felt within the cage of her life, she decided the only way to slip its bars was to kill herself. mother and they as PreTeen started having sex pretending similarity identicalness and love. There towards the end, he does see it. Taboo Season 2: Apparently Tom Hardy Is Back In The Role Of James Keziah Delaney For The Second Installment ... as well as Oona Chaplin as Zilpha Geary, Stephen Graham as Atticus and Jefferson Hall as Thorne Geary. Both of which destroyed her from the inside out. But they certainly left the door open for her surviving. i needed the writers to give a shit about zilpha. I think it's still quite likely that she isn't dead. because we were rooting for their relationship, because despite the incest their whole 'we're the same' schtick felt like the closest thing to a love story worthy of these people, terrible as they were. Taboo was okay, but it was slow, I didn't care about any of the characters and so it was a bit of a disapointment. Jumping from that bridge doesn't necessarily kill you anyway, it's not like it was the Golden Gates bridge. I think he saw it as a game they were playing, that Zilpha could just shrug off her respectable life whenever she was ready. Created by Steven Knight with Tom Hardy and Chips Hardy, the drama series Taboo is set in 1814 and follows James Keziah Delaney (Tom Hardy), a … Also, James dug her freakin husband's grave and he's not even worried about finding her body to give her a funeral? Zilpha isn't supposed to be a complete victim, being with james was supposed to give her agency not further diminish her, you know? She could barely even make up her own mind let alone hatch a master plan to fake her own death. But, if you were like me and just shrugged it off and moved on with the story, hoping it would make things more interesting, you were disappointed in the end. In Taboo Season 1 Episode 6, a horrible family secret unlocks terrible memories for James Delaney, with death and destruction following in it's wake. He saw her as just like him, someone who was free from societal trappings, in control and self-possessed, maybe she was like him when they were younger. He would never express this, but maybe somewhere deep down, he wanted her to escape from him. When you wanted to make art and you just made me laugh. Also Read: 16 'Taboo' Main Characters, Ranked by How Dirty They Are (Photos) But Delaney, it turned out, was not simply motivated by some kind of nihilistic rage. That's sort of how the brother and sister from flowers in the attic started having sex with each other. because in those days it wasn't uncommon for men of 30 to marry girls as young as 14; from a young age Girls were raised to be subservient to men, and treated like property or second class citizens. A devout Christian." What do you guys think? As half siblings and they were probably kept from each other as NORMAL siblings, see Wiki on Westermark Effect (cause/cancelling incest thus social normalizing siblings). We didn't see her die. But no, I don't think she is dead, or else we would have seen her corpse and unless weighted down, bodies float . I'm really dissapointed because I felt there was so much backstory they could have brought in about that relationship, if they'd just let oona chaplin have lines or basically took a break from shitting on her to let her breathe. The show would have been better served if they'd used a different plot device than incest to inject some gripping family drama into the proceedings and while there's nothing 'romantic' about incest, James could have been just as fucked up chasing skirt elsewhere. Friday, 25 December 2020, 07:54 EST. One, the images of James' mother and Zilpha kept inter flashing as if similar=the same for essence of James' vision spirit seeing it all as if Zilpha was possessed by his mother AS HE WAS FKING HER. From what we got onscreen there just wasn't enough there for me to invest in any type of relationship with those two. James Delaney/Zilpha Geary [Thistle and Weeds] - Duration: 2:06. James: They're my rocks now. Poor Winter! Zilpha killing herself seems perfectly in line with what we have learned of her mental state. So with Zilpha, the reason he doesn’t want her a part of it is he doesn’t think she is his sort of person. Sometimes I feel like they had other plans for the show but decided to drop the most controversial aspect of it because they were too afraid of turning some of the audience way. James appeared to flick away something from his shoulder after being shot. I felt as if her story with James war really strangely contrived. Starring Tom Hardy as adventurer James Keziah Delaney who builds his own shipping empire in the early 1800s. Don’t worry, buddy — flashback dick happens to a lot of guys. Zilphas character was very underwritten.I hated James complete 180 turn towards her.She was written for the shock value and then dropped.I think your right with Step mummy lol,she instantly cares for James for reasons??? I agree, I felt their relationship was more complex than just incest - though this show's handling of that plot line says I'm wrong. Or in a drunken, water infused magic moment, did James use her guts to auger some answers? Honestly, even the writers might haven't decided it yet and it could also depend on the actress willingness and availability. The reason why he buried Thorne was because he felt bad that Thorne had died when he didn’t have to die. Hardy/Knight shoved the concept of incest in our faces as if it was some revolutionary idea. I feel like the storyline had a lot potential but they decided to just drop it because it seems Knight has a problem with any female character that isn't 100% submissive to the male lead (Peaky Blinders also has the same problem). And it's very clear from what I've seen in the show that the sex they have is consensual. and it's just astounding to me that with all this MUCH that could have been done with her as a character, with the relationship, with james' development in regard to her - that they did so LITTLE. I think it was evident in her letter to him at the end. I imagine she will be back if there is another season and will haunt James like every other person that had died. So it was hard to sympathize for them or root for them. 3 Min Read. I think it was more than him just losing interest, something changed. Actress Ooona Chapman, who plays the character James Delaney’s half-sister Zilpha has deep dark eyes that exquisitely express the untold longings central to Taboo’s plotline. James paid a visit to Dumbarton at St Bartholomew's Hospital, and the doctor made him drink laudanum diluted with burdock to relieve his pain. What about the Russian girl in seasons 3? And Zilpha makes it clear that James’ strangling of her the episode prior was ok. That they just have to take it slower… and that they have all the time in the world. With Tom Hardy, David Hayman, Ruby-May Martinwood, Louis Ashbourne Serkis. I couldn't get invested in their relationship, it was too one sided for most of the series. • Zilpha might be a dead woman walking, but her wardrobe remains magnificent. It certainly did that. Not up to my expectations, but my expectations were very, very high. That's why she 'committed suicide''. There are enough of us crazy bitches in the world to screw him over, right girls? If it was the murder or him not wanting her involved he would of Brace'd her. She still worried about heaven and God's judgment and we know that James doesn't believe in any of it. (2)He gets the flashbacks/images of his witch-mother while they're having sex. and every flaw with that relationship is the creators of this series fault. Knight has a problem with any female character that isn't 100% submissive to the male lead. James and Zilpha can’t exactly elope or Zilpha will hang. I say Zilpha probably heard of him saw him and fantasized snuck into his part of the grounds made separate due to his crazy Nat.Am. She still references religious beliefs after her killing her husband and choosing James. Now that season 2 is confirmed, I expect one of two things: 1- Zilpha will haunt James persistently throughout his upcoming adventures, and it will affect him far more than the other dead people he sees/hears. Also If we're to believe James can speak to the dead then isn't Zilpha still alive since he can't 'hear her sing' as he says. They knew each other’s madness and she kind of stepped across an unwritten line between the two of them. Zilpha's husband's pistol was loaded with gunpowder, but no ball. They wanted to shock the audience and make the show seem darker and edgier than it ended up being. it just felt like an injustice to her and to oona - because the way their relationship was initially presented it felt like zilpha had the ability to be conniving and probably had been cruel to james in how she managed that relationship as much as she loved him, it would have been so interesting watching them call each other out and exploring how problematic they could have been towards each other and built on that NOT JUST? What appears to be a re-run of last week's outing takes a diverting turn in the final act. Zilpha killing herself seems perfectly in line with what we have learned of her mental state. I've been watching the show since episode one, and I know that ever since Game of thrones the subject of incest isn't so taboo on tv anymore and many writers now use it to increase the Drama of a movie or tv show. J ames had fled to Africa after having stolen fourteen diamonds in England, after the death of his father. Or maybe she turned against him or something. While Taboo seems to be telling a revenge story, it seems much more interested in exploring the complicated family drama between Zilpha and James. Also the cannibal thing was completely dropped after episode 3. I could be wrong but from what I've surmised is that she most likely came onto him. We see wind when James uses the dust. I think James recognized that Zilpha wasn't really like him in that she truly believed in religion and God. Similarly to Brace she would not have been able to handle the freedom that James embraces. She had lost everything that mattered to her. Wtf did I say not implying this? I don't think any of the male characters would've been able to do that. and this is not necessarily a problem with people blaming james, it's blaming the minds behind this show for sacrificing content and development so they could have a self congratulatory 8 episode long wank about 'maintaining suspense' and creating 'mystery'. Like James, Taboo encounters out-and-out evil as a mere obstacle to be effortlessly surmounted in the race to the finish line. So yeah, not entirely convinced by James yet. I feel they got cold feet during the time they were filming and decided to go into another direction. I think the fact that people have to make up how it started or who was the initiator makes it clear that they didn't do a good job of fleshing out the relationship. Zilpha did that of her own volition, which ironically makes her seem insane as he rejected her, in a passionate way. They knew each other's madness and … Permalink: They're my rocks now. you can love someone and still resent them). The Oscar nominee plays James Delaney, who returns to London in 1814 from Africa, after 10 years vowing to get revenge for his father’s murder. Polly is one of the strongest characters. In addition, your last comment, The VERY ending as James was killing the US spy he visioned seeing and kissing Kilpha's spirit in which earlier James SAID IF HE'D ENVISION HER SPIRIT HE'D KNOW SHE WAS DEAD, - HE THEN IN THAT LATER SCENE ENVISIONED KISSING HER DEAD F'ING SPIRIT - HE KNOWS SHE'S DEAD. In the last, and very much least, of the available roles was Zilpha Geary, estranged half-sister to the brooding James Delaney. If you’ve been watching Taboo from the beginning, you’ve been waiting for shit to get really bizarre. It's too soon to let her die. She had lost everything that mattered to her. If you pay attention these flashbacks happen as some kind of 'spider sense' as a warning of danger in other scenes. (I'm hoping for something along these lines). After having killed her husband and being rejected by her brother/lover Zilpha kills herself, and with ridiculous effect. It appears she did. It is just good. Zilpha was a very interesting character but I felt we barely knew her and we had to fill in the blanks. She gives the child to James, and James leaves the child with some random guy to care for. The masked figure was revealed to be Thorne on episode 7. Well AIONCAN, Troll posting below Cursing at my open IMHO opinion by saying 'WTF? I didn't see any of that. Why is KNOWN Oedipal psychology DISGUSTING when in story canon overtly James/Zilpha is ALSO incest ergo Taboo disgusting anyway anti-social norms? • Zilpha might be a dead woman walking, but her wardrobe remains magnificent. I think the writer's intention with the deaths of Winter and Zilpha were to illustrate how the innocent/beloved people in James' life get hurt unintentionally, thereby reinforcing that he's a bad dude and you should stay away. He also says they used to speak to each other without talking in dark corners and they are the same person. Despite my complaints, Taboo‘s first season was good. James decides that it must include safe passage in the American blocus. And I think this is reason enough to keep her in the show. I think he sees the light after that.". James: They're my rocks now. Zylpha had faked her death to attain a certain goal/go to a certain place and it will have major impacts on the upcoming events. 2- It will be revealed that hatching masterful plans isn't just a James Delaney specialty. (Freud was a nut who wanted to fuck his mother and wanted everyone else to believe they do so he came up with Oedipus complex, but not everyone does because that's disgusting). Unfortunately, it all went downhill in the 2 last episodes. Why did the EIC wait until now to blow up James’s ship, when its ownership and location — like that of his office, his house, and his sister’s house — is a matter of public record? Zilpha has been lying with James all along about her feelings for him. HARDY: The nature of his relationship with his sister had more to do with obsession than genuine love. The letter she wrote may have seems loving, but i think it was done to wound James. Set in 1814, Taboo follows one James Keziah Delaney (Hardy), a man long presumed dead who returns to London from Africa to claim his share of his deceased father’s shipping empire. James leaves, but they are both full of mistrust for the other. But it was confirmed minutes after Thorne died. 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