At the end of DBZ when Goku says that theres someone strong Bulma even says that Goku and Vegeta are the strongest and that no one can even challenge them. Plain and simple he didn't go super sayain 3 in dbz or gt so logically we have to assume he can't. Besides, him seeing Goku go SSJ3 won't get him mad and turn SSJ3 himself, because he would have to train more to do it (SSJ3 doesn't come through intense anger like the previous two transformations). Also, if they were even they wouldn't just be even in SSJ2 they would aslo be even in SSJ and Base forms. Remember after the seven years of peace after Cell died? he even accended to ussj with trunks in the htc. Plus, with Goku dying so much and all, ? And without Goku around, Vegeta lost any reason left to train, and like Gohan became weaker and more mellowed. and "Can a SS2 be stronger than an SS3? He deals solid damage with each super... and that's it. Vegeta just wanted to be able to fight Goku and this was in his mind the best way to do it plus he wanted to fight without any inhibitations. Goku had already achieved and most likely practiced with SSJ3 before he fought Kid Buu, and yet the form was still a strain. Gotenks was a fused being who achieved SSJ3. (P.S. even as Majin Vegeta .. he couldn't beat Buu in his fat form. but vegeta doesnt need to be evil to accend.he just has to have a good heart. The only reason Goku went SSJ3 was because he trained in the heavens for so long, while Vegta only traind on Earth. yes i know he used the form whilst he was a majin but it does not mean dat it was the first time he used it. Miscellaneous. Super Saiyan, a saiyan's powers are magnified in this form, by exactly how much is never specified(an important bit of info to note). Majin Buu against Goku was only at 40% of his Max though. SSj2 Vegeta and Bulma tank quite well. He then told Vegeta that his fighting moves are slow as he takes a … 1/120 i would assume one of the main reasons Vegeta never went to SS3 is cause of the "10 years of Peace" or "Modest living" after Buu. He could have done it in the 10 year gap between Buu Saga and End of Z, because he claims that he and Goku would need a planet for a battlefield, but if he was stuck at SSJ2, Goku would domination him, but of course, Akira didn't really show it, so that's very unlikely. Potara: Using 2 magic earings SS1 Goku and SS1 Vegeta fuse together and become stronger than "Mystic" Gohan, who was stronger than a SS2. Vegito is obviouly stronger due to the time between the two Sagas and because of the fact it's Goku and Vegeta fused. Goku was dead, with a body that could not feel hunger and had unlimited "life". In order to determine which is stronger you have to compare the character AT THE SAME TIME IN HIS LIFE WITH THE SAME BASE POWER LEVELS. Something to kick in the transformation, on SSJ3 is basically nothing, since it doesnt need an emotional. another evidence of this is goku stating in his fight with vegeta, "wow, u have really outdone yorself in the past 7 years" which goes to show dat vegeta did in fact reach the form himself and allowed babidi to control him in order to unleash his evil potential.TheDarkPrinceReturns! so if goku was able vegeta should be able to do it too, Well Gotenks skips SSJ2 and went from SSJ3, so i think after going SSJ4 for the first time, Vegeta decided to skip SSJ3 in favor of the stonger SSJ4. The reasons to why he didnt transform are various, so I dont need to quote them here; but this includes the fact that he didnt need it, that producers forgot or never though about it, or even if in the cirscunstances the SSJ2 form was always a better choice. "You Can't", "You need more training" or "Ok I'll show you first turn Super Saiyan and go beyond that to Super Saiyan 2 and if you go beyon this you'll become Super Saiyan 3" could this be the only thing that could help vegeta. A lot of people on here don't think Vegeta can reach SSJ3 all because Goku did it in the otherworld which makes it impossible in the real world. I may not be a huge Vegeta fan, but I believe it's possible, or maybe he just didn't WANT to. also, as Vegeta-San stated, daizenshu states dat vegeta reached the form thru harsh training meaning dat it is official. The reason Vegeta didn't become a super saiyan 2 and 3 that smooth, was because he wasn't pure hearted. vegeta was even more poverfull. It works for both Super and Extreme Types. He spends all of his time playing catch up that he never even thought to consider a possiblity of a form beyond Super Saiyan. he was only elping telepathically. 3761. Take your favorite fandoms with you and never miss a beat. 2321. Vegeta may be cocky, but fighting-wise he isn't stupid (at least to me). And the fans desires always had Goku as the one and only hero. Gohan as well. Goku acheived it because he was dead and DID have his body. hmmmm? he did in a movie but never agin, Not the same person! That's just what I think, I could be totally wrong. Due to that limitation, I believe that Vegeta could reach Super Saiyan 3, albeit with a minimal chance of sucess of doing it... Vegeta - San Talk Contrib 18:42, April 6, 2010 (UTC), @SSJ4Lewich. Slightly raises the Super Attack power. “Over in a Flash”, “Super Saiyan”, and “Fierce Battle” are very common Link Skills on his categories, and he will share many Link Skills with other Pure Saiyans, and especially Super Saiyan 3 category allies. He was in Otherworld for the 7 years after Cell and learned SSJ3, then he trained even more so he could use it with a body. Super Dragon Ball Heroes: Dark Demon Realm Mission! of matching gokus ssj3.hes always been able to match him before why not now? goku on the other hand trained in other world to reach his ss2 & 3 form which was VERY easier as otherworld has more of an advantage in training than earth. Gogeta (STR) X3 (DOKKANED) Buuhan Omega Shenron (PHY) (To be dokkaned) Fused Zamasu X3 Broly (PHY) X4 (DOKKANED) Super 17 Janemba (STR) Ultra Instinct Goku SSGSS Vegeta X2 Beerus X2 Kid Buu (INT) SSJ3 Gotenks (TEQ) SSJ3 Gotenks (PHY) BOTH: Blue Kaioken Goku (DOKKANED = BOTH) SSJ3 Goku (DOKKANED = BOTH) Super Vegito (AGL) (DOKKANED = BOTH) Dragon Ball Wiki is a FANDOM Anime Community. Super Dragon Ball Heroes: Big Bang Mission!!! When he was dead he was shown to have nearly limitless energy. I just think its a plothole.—This unsigned comment was made by SonJohn (talk • contribs) Please sign your posts with ~~~~ next time! Goku says that (he actually says by hard training, but training is basically a mean to increase the ki so..) and Gotenks proves it, since he/them only saw Goku transform once and by that and a few days mastering the transformation, they did transform on SSJ3 quite easily. Oct 25, 2017 1,448. In GT he becomes super saiyan 4 and skips out 3. Sure Vegeta had the potential to reach the SS3 level, of course he did. If the question is "Which is more reliable in battle?" STR SSJ3 Goku GT has Over in a Flash and gives all allies 33% attack. The comparison between Dabura and Cell is a comparison between Dabura and Super Perfect Cell. Also the fact that Gohan could hold his own even though he got weaker implies that Dabura wasnt as strong as super perfect Cell. But maybe a few days of training, since is probably the most difficult transformation to control and mantain. 135 Lv. At 10 Ki, his Passive Skill will push it up to 12 for a Super ATK with an impressive 120% Boost to DEF. When Gohan went Super Saiyan 2 in the tournament, Vegeta commented on how this form was weaker than when he fought Cell, and Gohan was only in Super Saiyan 1 at that point. But I do think that Vegeta HAS need help for some of his forms, whereas Goku did not. Then SSJ3 is the better option. https://dragonball.fandom.com/wiki/Forum:Super_saiyan_3_vegeta%3F?oldid=1359712. I do want to say that vegeta does tell goku something like no matter what he has done how hard he has trained goku is stronger than him blah blah blah. This is why I believe Goku used his SSJ form to battle Bills after SSJG form's time ran out. I've also heard debate the Super Majin Vegeta is essentially his equivalent of Super Saiyan 3, since he goes into Second Stage and then gets a power boost. Training in the otherworld just allowed Goku to reach SSJ3 quicker because his body there didn't get as stressed from all the training. Str Gogeta; SSJBE Vegeta; SSJ3 Broly; SSJ3 Gotenks; 3x MVP 17; Teq Cell; AGL Goku; INT SSJG Vegeta; Teq Cell; 2x Super 17; O Shenron; Str Buu; 2x Phys Broly (old) AGL SSJ4 Vegeta; Teq Frieza; UI Goku; Get Your Dokkan account now; FREE. Do you plan on showing off and toying with your opponent? Hell, even Teen Gohan dominated Frieza during the Buu Saga, and he was in his Base Form too. We all know that he did transform into SSJ by 'normal' means, and I think I did clarify that he kinda does on SSJ4 as well. SSJ3 Vegeta is a must-have tank. SSJ4 is x5,000. Oct 25, 2017 4,899. He knows the drawbacks that a SSJ3 form brings, so maybe on the few times that he really fought for real, he maybe, realize that SSJ3 was not better than SSJ2 (taking into consideration that the enemy is stronger than the SSJ3 form and its drawbacks)? Evidenced by Gohan getting his but handed to him by Cell then ascending to SS2 and beating Cell like it was nothing. Last edited: Dec 31, 2020. Vegeta has a great set of Link Skills for his Teams. And I honestly dont think Ki is a problem either. TheDarkPrinceReturns! he was able to reach ss2 by training himelf. Unlike any other SSJ transformation, is basically raw power, they dont need an emotional kick or blutz rays, just pure and simple, power/ki. (2 years after Frieza + 3 years for arrival of Androids + 7 years after Cell = 12 years) During that 12 years Goku fought ALOT and trained even more. Selling High End Android - Global Global | Rank 573 | 45 LR s | 1000 Day Goku | 73 full EZA Units | 168 Units on Rainbow. If Vegeta was seen as a powerful being that had the potential to save the day, that could take away from Goku's image as the series hero. Vegeta is a pure blooded saiyan he can with out a doubt reach SSJ3 hell even if he dies in the process all it will do is send him to the otherwolrd where he can now keep his body which just means he would end up training there till he got wished back. 3. and how would Pilaf know about them ? In GT goku's little body could not hold super saiyan 3 as well. Vegeta and Gohan had no reason to train and then when GT came up they just let Goku fight every battle. (SuperSaiyan4BurstMode 14:30, October 26, 2009 (UTC)). It is some sort of supernatural quality that Goku and Gotenks shared in being either dead or fused (a connection underlined by the commonality that it cost both SSJ3s time to sustain the form). Here are some real reliable facts. Normally more powerful than SS2. Goku is stronger he just supresses himself when doing the Fusion Dance. Cause Vegeta should've went SS3. Mystic: Gohan apparently skips everything after SS2 and reaches a level called "Mystic", although that may have just been an unofficial term, it was still the peak of his power and was not enough to defeat Buu. 20:03, April 6, 2010 (UTC), yes they did fight while vegeta was in his majin form. Golden Warrior - Saiyan Warrior Race - Super Saiyan - Over in a Flash - Limit-Breaking Form - Fierce Battle Super Saiyan 3 - Pure Saiyans - Vegeta's Family - Worthy Rivals - Crossover x3x5 x7 x10 x30 x30 x30 Lv. The writter!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Deleted member 203 user requested account closure. As anyone with a half a brain knows, it doesn't matter what anyone elses opinions are around the world, the Japanese are the ones who need to be kept happy for the series to be made. He’s a good choice for any stage he is eligible for, like Pure Saiyans or Super Saiyan 3, etc. Reduces damage received by 80% for 10 turns from start of turn; ATK +120% when the target enemy is stunned, Writer on the GamePress DBZ Dokkan Battle wiki. He understood that it was extremely powerful, yet it had serious drawbacks. upheaval (SSJ, SSJ2 and maybe SSJ4 on Goku's case) or an external motivator (like the blutz machine for Vegeta's SSJ4). 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SSJ has better balance of power, speed, strength and stamina. I think vegeta could go to a super saiyan 3. Goku did all those transformations by him self too. Either Vegeta could do it and he didn't want to, or he simply couldn't. Actually, Super Saiyan 3 is different from the other Super Saiyan transformations due to the fact that the only thing needed is to use one's full energy, ki, power and potential to reach it. The reason why Vegeta didn't attain Super Saiyan 3 is because it is much easier to achieve it while dead. Go to Qaaman's page to find out more on Youtube!!! The reason is simple. Vegeta is as strong as Goku in Base (or they wouldn't be able to fuse), so it's not that he's too weak to handle SSJ3. >_< Goku porbably thought he could win because Buu was giving off fake reading of his Max. I think because of his obession with becoming more powerful than Goku would have caused him to have reached super saiyan 3 shortly after Goku did. He knew this would happen." The only reason Goku went ssj4 becuase ofthe Kais help and Pan. As for the matter at hand, I believe that by the end of Dragon Ball Z that Vegeta had a basic powerlevel higher than Goku's, but Goku always had the advantage of turning into Super Saiyan 3; it has been mentioned by several opinions here that in order to reach Super Saiyan 3, one needs motivation. (This only strengthens you stance.) Ans unfortunately, this was a series that was heavily driven by fan opinion. Vegeta is my second favorite character, but I just don't think he ccan transform. Don't forget Great Ape, Golden Great Ape, ASSJ and USSJ, which are x10, x800, x100 and x150, respectively. His best place is going to be in any event that allows stunning, like Super Battle Road. 2. Plus, Fusion Dance is much weaker than Potara. even the author explains it on one of his blogs. Super saiyan 3 transformation consume a lot of ki energy. i dont think so vegeta fought to kill but goku fought to push his own limits so i dont think vegeta would be able to turn ssj3. now if u go to think of it, had he of trained harder like goku, then by the end of Z or the start of GT, he wud definatley of become a ss3.TheDarkPrinceReturns! The effect increases along with the skill level. 140 10349 11003 11657 12311 15111 19311 9136 9716 10296 10786 13586 18436 4670 4924 5177 5431 8231 11871 Not too many events last that long though, so it’s not a huge weakness, all things considered. Why would he ask Goku? SupremeBooyah (talk) 18:35, October 16, 2012 (UTC). When he went ssj4, he needed Bulma's machine to do it(not even Baby could do it himself), and after the form wore off; Goku asked why he didn't transform again, and he shouted shutup!, implying that he could transform (even after attaining the form) without the Blutz Wave Generator. Vegeta lacks any non-situational ATK Buffs. He do transform into SSJ4. Yeah, thats the only reason goku went ssj3 and thats the only reason he's alive. There's a lot more to it than just SS1, SS2, SS3, SS4. Should vegeta have turned super saiyan 3? Frieza Saga Goku was when he just went SSJ1 for the first time, and Vegito happened during the Buu Saga, 12 years after Frieza Saga! It produces a ton of strain and is, to put it simply, an unbalanced form. View all Vegito SSJ4 Xeno Gotenks transforming (INT) Buutenks buu transforming (TEC) Goku and Vegeta (angel) Kefla Vegito LR (TEQ) Gogeta LR (PHY) Beerus (PHY) Majin Vegeta Goku SSJ2 (Angel) Fused C-13 Coora (STR) Bardock Future Gohan (INT) Piccolo SSB (kaioken) Goku (STR) Zamasu (AGL) Future trunks (TEC) Goku (namek saga) Gohan SSJ2 LR Cell LR Vegeta SSJ4 (STR… Dance: Old Kai states flat out that dance creates a stronger fusion than the earings. Many times, fusions will take on a great deal of damage, but instead of dying, they merely defuse. His only relevant links to this (or any) STR team is Super Saiyan, Prepared for Battle, and Fierce Battle. The effect increases along with the skill level. All of the Super Saiyan forms have drawbacks, if you look close enough. I think vegeta could go ssj3 because he and goku were equal when they were ssj2. Unfortunately, plenty of events in Dokkan don’t allow for the Enemy to be stunned (Dokkan events, Fighting Legend: Goku, some stages of Virtual Dokkan Ultimate Clash), limiting his usefulness. SSJ3 Vegeta is best used as a tank for harder content, like Super Battle Road. Enemies cannot hurt him significantly while this is active, and 10 turns is an incredibly long time for such high resistance. Also after Goku died, it appears as though Vegeta lost enthusiasm to train and the desire to beat Goku simply because he was not there, and there was nothing to train for, however Goku was training in the other world, as thats all he lives to do SSJ4 Lewich talk contribs 12:12, April 5, 2010 (UTC). he was confident of defeating majin buu when he cudnt in his ss2 form. puls if you think about without vegeta goku would not beat kid buu,omga shonnron, or gohan wouldn't beat cell without him. The person at the top of this section is wrong. Vegita could only get ssj4 with bulmas machine and ssj3 isnt to far away from ssj4 in Super Saiyan Power Levels, so i think if he tried hard with a machine like the one that made him ssj4 he could posibly be a ssj3. could goku even had accended without dying????? Remember who got Super Saiyan 1 first. In GT he becomes super saiyan 4 and skips out 3. In a way, SSJ3 drains "life force". Vegeta was never able to train while dead (since he wasnt allowed to have his body). Therefore, there are several issues with Vegeta turning SSJ3, though one is considerably more speculative. Using the Dance technique Goten and Trunks fuse at their base levels and become Gotenks, who then becomes a SS1 and then , skipping 2, a SS3. Super Dragon Ball Heroes: Universe Mission!! Other than that...they are more than capable, ESPECIALLY Vegeta. To answer the questions "Can a SS1 be stronger than an SS2?" well,goku was the main reason he trained to ascend BUT what makes you think he couldnt go all the way? Goku had a hard time with this transformation. Saying "Base Form Vegito is stronger than SSJ1 Frieza Saga Goku" is an absolutley idiotic comparision. When Goku fought Freeza and turned SS1 for the first time his power level was only around 15,000,000 (I think). First we have to look of what Vegeta needs to transform to SSJ3. They are Goku and Gotenks. 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