It has a tapered steel body with a ball finial. This example came in a modified Turkish belt frog. This is my first personal Enfield and second in my family. The rifle was a No. 769 0 obj<> endobj by Steve Hoog 23 Mar 2012, 15:17, Post Lot of 4 Vintage Tin Halloween Noisemakers. My thought is its a Savage No4 Mk1* lend lease made in 1942, It has the ( S ) markings and machine marks, The receiver, barrel, bolt, magazine and stock all have the same Indian furbished serial numbers and the savage markings. It was the British Army's standard rifle from its official adoption in 1895 until 1957. The Lee-Enfield bolt-action, magazine-fed, repeating rifle was the main firearm used by the military forces of the British Empire and Commonwealth during the first half of the 19th century. I was recently asked to demo how to attach the web sling and its cousin the 1907 leather sling to an No4T for use in the field or range. Truth be known about Enfield serial numbers is simply, the serial number was used more for production counting than any other reason. 4Mk. 4 spike bayonets used by Turkey. Sujets similaires These war time sling swivels were made by Hollands and are typically browned steel. Enfield Rifle For Sale. Marked US Property , Gun is in exceptional condition. Serial number observations suggest about 7,000 were made. Over the years I have received many emails regarding serial numbers. British Lee-Enfield No7 Mk1/L knife bayonet, scabbard and frog M/78 Date 1954. Most examples observed are of USA or Canadian manufacture. The last picture shows an unusual Prince-Smith mark comprised of a large "56" on the socket face. To subscribe to the magazine,visit theNRA membership page here and selectAmerican Rifleman as your member magazine. Inspection marks on the receiver ring. 1943 went up to 'BL'. That`s a No4 Mk1* made by Savage for England in the days of WW 2. 5,949. 196,200 were produced, all by Joseph Lucas Ltd., Chester Street, Birmingham. The Indian plant stamped their own serial number into the top of the receiver. An average example runs about $375 in very good condition at the time of this writing. " gh" over "1 9 h". This example was reworked post-War following the change from Roman to Arabic numbering. 4 Mk. Occasionally, viewer's (inspector's) marks are found on No. 4 Mk. So a genuine Savage rear sight converted to T format by H&H is possible on an early 1941 converted and war time used rifle and on a late 1945 scopeless rifles and in between when added to BSA rifles that had the L flip sight from the factory - Savage provided a lot of micrometer sights for this purpose. Lee Enfield books by Ian Skennerton - Ideal reference information Buy Now Of other interest - Wood and other Metal marks / stamps. This is one of the most frequently (attempted) reproduced / forged marks of all the No4T marks. . Genuine early, When the war expedient models were produced (initially with the "L" flip sight, then those selected for conversion to T status had to have the rear sight replaced with a modified micrometer sight (H&H indicated this had been done by stamping the "S" on the front of the right receiver wall ( this happened to most, but not all!) History, development, service, specifications, pictures and 3D model. BRITISH or CANADIAN WWII ENFIELD SLING or BREN used cond. Based on serial numbers observed, approximately 35,000 No. Singer continued using a similar markings, as used on the Mk. 210.00. I bayonet was a throwback. The pictures at left illustrate some of the forging marks. If you are lucky enough to have an unmolested No4 mk1T, then you could have a rifle, scope and accessories that represent one of the 4 years of production at Holland and Holland, or as it was updated and repaired by British Armorers or other installments of service history. Our Price: 195.00: Gunner Points: 19: Stock Info: Out Of Stock: CR322 LE4 Sling swivel. "S" inside a square Prior to the Great War (World War One, WWI, 1914-1919), the Short, Magazine, Lee-Enfield (SMLE) left the factory with a buttstock marking disc, a small, removable piece of brass inletted into the right side of the buttstock; a place for the Unit Armourer to stamp a unit identification. Here is a Savage T format sight - with a 'squared S" on all 4 major parts as above: Of other interest - Wood and other Metal marks / stamps. If anyone can help me out I would really appreciate it. 4Mk. 1 Mk. 4 Mk. It retains the 10 round box detachable magazine, however the largest change to the rifle was the addition of a rear aperture sight. Smith & Wesson's new M&P FPC is a compact, folding pistol-caliber carbine chambered in 9 mm Luger and designed to accept the company's M&P handgun magazines. Due to similarities with Indian Government acceptance marks, this was once thought to possibly indicate Indian service. More likely then not,it started life at the Long Branch plant. 4 Spike Bayonet Manufacturers Chart. 0000001426 00000 n It is stamped nothing at all like yours. 4 Mk. The finish varies considerably between manufacturers, with Baird bayonets approaching the excellent finish of the No. The period of manufacture is believed to be late-1940s or early-1950s. These are now hard to find in any condition, but this example is near pristine. (120mm.) The British No.4 MK I Enfield rifle was well respected for its smooth action and reliability. . 0000001613 00000 n 0000001961 00000 n You are using an out of date browser. Along with this will be the model designation, and below this, the serial number. No. No fluff here is the real guff on the #4 mk1 : No4 MkI - All About Enfields and another Britains Lee Enfield No 4 Rifle - History By Cammack happy reading ,Try find a British made one you know its going to be far better than some copy from over the water Broadarrow Well-Known Member Oct 30, 2018 #7 ''Parkerised'' Long branch nO 4 An increasing consensus is that this simply may be a British viewer's mark, as this mark seems only to be found on Prince-Smith examples. by Steve Hoog 22 Mar 2012, 20:21, Post I, with the bayonet and socket one solid forging. 2 bids. BSA from 1943 to 1945 was receiving fore wood and buttstock sets from Sykes Limited in walnut - these were marked S.L. Then after the lessons and material losses of the BEF in Europe, the No4T was hurried into existence and the 1907 USA leather slings were applied to it as standard equipment. Lee Enfield #4 MK1 - MARSTAR CANADA. They did not add the serial number of the rifle to the second butt stock edge, nor the S51 mark to the wrist - this Hollands work is not recognized as required for continued service in those parts. I've been privileged to shoot Lee-Enfield rifles before and have always found them to be worthy of their reputation as well built, accurate rifles. To ensure its the real deal and war period production, what should one look for? Serial Numbers, Model, Mark and Manufacture Identification, Serial Number and Manufacturer Information Locations. It was published in 2007, available now from Aust., N.Z., US and UK distributors. Enfield MK1 S.M.L.E.303 British 24' barrel 1905 production This. The left side of the receiver is marked "NO 4 MK 1*". The factory eventually went on to produce cylinder heads for Davey-Paxman landing craft engines. This example was manufactured post-War for Belgium. My thought is its a Savage No4 Mk1* lend lease made in 1942, It has the ( S ) markings and machine marks, The receiver, barrel . Fazakerley also continued to produce the rifle for foreign contracts after the war. What is the letter to the right of the 'X' (proof mark) above the M.1944? On the right the "England" stamp was a required format for origin to be imported into the US after @1965 and is clearly stamped through all of the finish layers. The scabbard is a Mk. II*, with approximately 161,026 reported produced, during 19421943. SMLEs will have serial numbers stamped on the bolt, receiver, barrel, nose cap and the underside of the rear sight. Firing mechanism is Enfield pull cocker type, with left side serrated safety lever. 4 spike bayonet. "F.F. 3. HWn7WpW)|s,iY&(T{+S{ycI( xxu_X')r_%m%ae[ov!n{wKrI|%Rs*5Pg" crR&%Nu2KC G?8~3TZ,GrpOMl">Ep%PT>|`(8-8i,&v#b7R U,i~D H2MV~p}-6eY3@K_wlqwC0TWv jwv~=4=?9K2/.$gc|dr_1Ti)wbz|y!A|Q6%w%j6gcB/GccvuY L>WpRQw- %zSZ9TbTdkuI?p`!_Uo_ M]TTy0& ~al2{|A2,`W&rf2-F^KN.w2A2bD F[0Iu&hSXYdOD9(=JshJa@. Some DP markings on non load bearing parts. The British MoD was running short of scope brackets and cheek pieces as it started the L42 service extension program so new surplus examples are rare on the ground. More importantly, everything it makes has the performance to match. Both bayonet and scabbard are serial numbered. Unfired and as clean and bright as the day it was born in the Fazakerley Royal Ordnance Factory in Liverpool in 1954. The sling worked well enough in dry / sunny climates like Africa and Italy, but in the UK training camps and northern Europe they were found to be "slippy" to use and needing lots of preservative (Dubbin) to survive the wet conditions. Rear micrometer sight. 4 Mk. and N74 - sometimes both in the same instance (pus inspection / receiving marks). Known Issues: PA 3rd Person broken (Wont fix) Tape clipping. The item on the left has been rebuilt, but features other components marked "SM" for consistency. 4 bayonets. 4 Mk. However, this has not been substantiated. While the Winchester made P14s were recognized as designated man / sniper rifles and developed the remainder, included the 1907 leather slings were relegated to storage and second tier supplies / arms / materials. Before the war, Prince-Smith was a manufacturer of machinery for making woolen textiles. So if you have a genuine Maltby T - it was converted in 1941 and a little into 1942 at H&H while stocks lasted - typically Maltby "Ts" are nearly always 1941 dated - a 1942 example that is genuine has yet to be documented. Essentially both types of sling present 3 loops, to form a better control on the stance with the firearm to hold and return to a sighting zero (natural point of aim) - I have personally experienced this in CMP competitions, where sling use during rapid fire is essential. Five distinctly different markings were used (all are pictured at left): Lucas marked the bayonets with M158 on the top of the socket. These were the last No. 4 Mk. The beechwood furniture is smooth, bright and unblemished. 4 Mk I, chambered in the same .303 British cartridge as the SMLE, retained the better features of the SMLE (in 1926, the SMLE was renamed the No. According to Graham Priest, on a rough scale of observations, he indicated that you see 100P.S.& S.Ltd for every circle mark; 150P.S.K for every circle mark, and 500N56 or unmarked for every circle mark. & S. Ltd." = Fred Fisher & Sons Ltd. "JW (S) Ltd." = John Wilson Ltd., Sheffield, "TRM.1", "TRM.2", and "TRM 3" = Tinsley Rolling Mills Co. Ltd. of Sheffield. 4Mk. As interest in replacing the No. Like the SMLE an all matching No4 or No5 will have all the serial numbers matching wherever they are found on a particular rifle. I will continue to add additional variants as I acquire additional pieces. Re: Lee Enfeild No 4 Mk1 Markings by Saxon Cross 23 Mar 2012, 13:50 Your serial No. Manufacturers will be noted either on the left side of the receiver or on the left side buttsocket. Specs: Savage Enfield No.4 MK1* Barrel Length: 25" Overall Length: 44.5" Caliber: .303 British Weight: 9lbs Capacity: 10 rounds Price: $600 to $1200 Ratings (out of five stars): Reliability: * * * * * It wasn't made by the French. Forging subcontractor marks tend to be very deeply struck. (125mm.) Area Code: 443 . All of the numbers on the metal (except the magazine) are matching. This symbol is similar to the Australian Defence Dept. You must be rich. I sniper variants. For the rifles produced in North America, American black walnut was consistently used, with birch used as a substitute when walnut was not available. C-71-111-000/MX-000 will be used for parts procurement. Commercially, in the United States, these rifles have not been widely available for some time, although nice unsporterized examples can still be found. No. The following illustrates the four bayonet and scabbard types that were mass produced; and some unusual variants that I have acquired. The prefixes were assigned as follows: A, B, C, D, E, F, G, L, N, O, P, Q, R, S, T ,U, V, W, Y ,Y, Z, AA, AB, AC. !o, I am hoping to get some help confirming or disproving my theory about this 1963 Indian furbished Lee Enfield No4 Mk1* I bought a few days ago. II became No. It's nice to be important, but it's more important to be nice! I, Scabbard (Throat): broad arrow proofmark, Tool: "BRADES" over "1944" over broad arrow proofmark. 0 1) A white "37" painted on the stock. Stock No: 7B/546 II* socket bayonet was used in Iraq during the Second World War and by the Iraqi Army after the end of British occupation in 1947. 2" over "Bg" over Crown-JF proofmark over "5171". Bayonet British "Enfield" rifles are some of the most iconic small arms in the world. 4 bayonet evolved (or devolved), with each generation becoming more crude and cheaper to manufacture. Copyright 2023 National Rifle Association, Women On Target Instructional Shooting Clinics, Volunteer At The Great American Outdoor Show, Marion P. Hammer Women Of Distinction Award, Women's Wildlife Management / Conservation Scholarship, National Youth Shooting Sports Cooperative Program, Exploded View: Short, Magazine Lee-Enfield, Mk III, 'A Grisly Business:' Australias Lee-Enfield Sniper Rifle, Reviving An Enfield: RTIs Imported No. 4 Mk. 4 Mk. This "last-ditch" SMLE was manufactured in 1943, and it has all the signs of a wartime firearm made in the throws of desperation. 4Mk. The company was established on the bombed out site of the South East London Indoor Sports Club (destroyed in the blitz bombings of 194041), solely to make bayonets. The rifle's two-piece stock and 10-round magazine are two of its most distinctive features. Quote Reply Topic: No4 Mk1* identification help . I read that BO would indicate early 1944. It has been consistently observed but no reason or original documentation found to support it. The Short, Magazine Lee Enfield (SMLE) delivered sterling service from the mud of Flanders to the farthest reaches of the Empire. Here, he explains their advantages and disadvantagesand how to use them safely. The used value of an ENFIELD 303 NO 4 MK I rifle has fallen ($61.94) dollars over the past 12 months to a price of $563.89 . It is a bolt action repeating rifle with a 10 round box magazine and free floating barrel, and is chambered for the venerable Mk.VII ammunition in .303 caliber. 4 bayonet. by The_Enigma 30 Mar 2012, 09:13, Return to The United Kingdom & its Empire and Commonwealth 1919-45, Discussions on all aspects of the The United Kingdom & its Empire and Commonwealth during the Inter-War era and Second World War. 4Mk. AA was webbing. The Parker HAle PH215 series triangular sling swivel is "High Tower" and will have the triangle clear the trigger housing loop to spin 360 degrees - these are also typically bright blued or blacked. Our Price: . wide at the extremes. This mod adds an Lee Enfield No.4 Mk.1 alongside a small quest. The new value of an ENFIELD 303 NO 4 MK I rifle has risen $13.78 dollars over the past 12 months to a price of $631.57 . 4 Mk. 4Mk. $15.50. (45mm.) These included ROF Fazakerley, BSA, and ROF Maltby. Lee Enfield No4 Mk* Long Branch 1944 - SOLD No4 Mk1 Fazakerley 1944 Serial KC25154 - Sold No4 Mk1 Maltby 1942 Serial M10655 - Sold No4 Mk1* Sterling 7.62mm Conversion - Sold AIA Lee Enfield M10-A1 Cal: 7.62x39mm - Sold Long Branch No4 Mk1* 1950 - Long Butt - SOLD No4 Mk1 7.62mm - SOLD No4 Mk1 BSA 1942 - Sold No4 Mk1 Fazakerley 1942 - Sold Savage used variations of both a plain "s" and an "s" inside a Square. The U.S.M5 scabbard was made by Beckwith Manufacturing Co. of Dover, New Hampshire. A listing of British and Commonwealth bayonet markings is available on Bryan Browns Old Military Markings Web site. Cure Date: The last picture illustrates an unusual mark, occasionally found on No. "AM/712" indicates procurement via an Air Ministry (RAF) contract. I know it was made in north America I'm just wondering if it's the US or Canada. ownership marking. Another dimension is whether to use (or if it is fitted) to include the front trigger guard triangular sling swivel (included in the factory build from Nov 1944 onwards and added by armourers as found after). be forewarned, Spike Fever is contagious! For those out there that want to get deeper into the serial number issues I would suggest purchasing either Skip Strattons or Ian Skennertons books. 4 Mk. 7B/1005/21/103/1147 After wrapping the point, this bayonet would have been oiled and sealed in clear plastic. Similarly Savage rifles that are genuine and completed to a fully scoped "T" are rare and early. JavaScript is disabled. Because of its great simplicity, the government was able to let contracts to firms not previously associated with arms production. 4 Mk. 4 Mk 1* (T) rifle in .303 British made by Savage in 1942. You can build more Battery Ammo and .303 at the Chem bench. The Lee-Enfield series of rifles is one of the most successful bolt-action rifles of all time. 4Mk. Qty 1 It has been observed that only on No4T rifles, there can be found an "X" mark on the upper left flat on top of the left fore end that holds the receiver wall. Auto Engineering produced approx. Canadian Arsenals trademark was adopted in 1947, Spirit of the Pike - British Socket Bayonets of the 20th Century, British No. by gruff27 22 Mar 2012, 20:09, Post The tooling is rough, the bayonet is little more than a . The bayonets are coated with mineral oil (grease), in a waxed "primary pack" paper wrapper. Lee Enfield No4 Mk1 Serial Numbers. 0000013021 00000 n He was born in 1921 and later served as a navy corpsman in Japan and Korea. Mills Webbing Prototype (Reproduction) Sling. Three firms produced the No. Where did the replacement Micrometer sights come from? These came together as you see them; bayonet and sheath have "4" painted on. This Mossberg 26B bolt-action rifle in .22 caliber belonged to my dad, Robert Elmo Babington. 4 Mk1 (T) sniper . 1 Enfield rifle was adopted by the United Kingdom in 1941. When the number sequence reached 9999 the next letter assigned to the factory would be substituted in place of the former. According to Jordanian collector/ researcher Ahmad Hatamleh, Jordan and Iraq were the two countries in the Levant where the British helped establish their national armies. The following maker marks are pictured at left: This scabbard is pictured on page 133 of Graham Priests book, Spirit of the Pike - British Socket Bayonets of the 20th Century. According to the author, the example in my collection is still the only brass-throated scabbard reported. The No. The example pictured at left also carries the Canadian "broad arrow" mark, indicating acceptance into Canadian service. 4Mk. According to Skennerton, 25,000 experimental MkII scabbards were manufactured by the Franco-British Electrical Company, Tempel Park, Hurley. First debuted in November 1895 as the .303 calibre, Rifle, Magazine, Lee-Enfield, the rifle has still found use today in military, sporting and ceremonial roles - over one hundred years since its inception in its original form. This updated and expanded edition also has a ready model identification chapter and colour plates. BI-1005-99-961-7794 identification lists detailing by illustration, descriptive part name and part number, all parts of the Rifle, .303 Calibre, Lee Enfield, No 4, Mk 1 * and its associated equipment. The world famous Lee Enfield in one of it's most popular incarnations, the Lee Enfield No.4 Rifle is one of our best sellers. I have encountered some post-war (commercial?) BO 12151 (the five digit no. 0000002206 00000 n 5 Mk I (for example, Savage or The rifle Savage produced was the Lee-Enfield No.4 Mk.1*, a British military design that was adopted by the U.K. just a few years before World War II began. A general guide for military surplus rifles, pistols, and ammunition. The No. With Hitler's war machine on the move, the British needed an accurate, mass-production rifle. 4 Mk 1* rifle I have are the following on the left side of the metal band holding the buttstock to the receiver assembly: (1) "1944" (with the 4 overstriking what. Here is a Hoyt marked MT&B Co made USA 1907 leather sling produced in 1918 which are thought to have made up the contingent of these WW1 supply / shipments. Sheffield Steel Products of Sheffield, Yorkshire. Lee-Enfield No. 0000007555 00000 n 5 carbines have ONLY four digit serial numbers. 4 bayonets. I and some Prince-Smith examples exhibiting rough tool marks. Henry Repeating Arms recently presented a $25,000 check a nonprofit organization that provides support and programs for the families and co-workers of firefighters killed in the line of duty. 1 Enfield rifle was adopted by the United Kingdom in 1941. Sheffield Steel Products produced approximately 670,000 Mk. 0000003043 00000 n 4Mk. (pictured at left) by Saxon Cross 22 Mar 2012, 21:45, Post Apart from the markings as stated above, you should take note of the woodwork. US$40 (4 bids) The rear aperture is calibrated for 300 meters and flips up to become a ladder sight or another aperture sight calibrated for 600 meters depending on the model. With the exception of Russia, socket bayonets had long gone out of fashion in modern armies. 0000000016 00000 n Even the spring plunger is a stamping. The socket was forged by Viners Ltd. 2. The demand of new ENFIELD 303 NO 4 MK I rifle's has risen 6 units over the past 12 months. 2 mm. lightly-struck "s" In the future, with a bit of luck, i should be a position to purchase an active Lee Enfield No 4. II* bayonets, Baird secured the spike to the socket using a steel pin. The No. Canadian Arsenals produced a run of approximately 5,000 No. Brass is said to have been an alternative screw material, but I have yet to see them installed - even in Ts from other nations. long by 0.8125in. II* bayonet has Arabic markings on the socket. TRIGGER Lee Enfield British Enfield No.4 Mk. . Yet again, once the sequence of numbers caped out letter prefixes were used to start the sequence over. These were provided to Britain under the Lend-Lease Act. Two Swiss codes are noted. The latter will have an engraving on the flat side of the receiver which will read something like (taking one of my rifles as an example), F(FTR)49. Here are 2 genuine early, It has been observed that only on No4T rifles, there can be found an, In the expert write ups, there is reference to the H&H contract use of an, Get email offers & the latest news from ArtioZen. The used value of an ENFIELD 303 NO 4 MK I rifle has fallen ($5.68) dollars over the past 12 months to a price of $600.00 . 4 spike bayonet was the result of a 20 year series of studies, experiments, and troop trials seeking to find a lighter, handier substitute for the venerable Pattern 1907 bayonet. Hollands would mark all rifles that they converted, not spare parts. ,DTvb5@ kg:v%A$6%#,6J,q]+9 V ,,mD$\"L3-p0$z2 cC+`i`,pIt jns;Nt=_e9AA r ^G? Maryland Shooters is the most active and largest Maryland gun community online. Many, but not all, maker and subcontractor marks are illustrated. This means Royal Ordance Factory Fazakerly, Factory Through Repair, 1949. I believe the number " 1 xxxx" means it was manufactured at Maltby. 4 Mk. 1, Mk III, I Have This Old Gun: British Lee-Enfield No. The stock was made by . Type: British infantry rifle. If the * on the receiver ring was on a No.1, it would mean the action had 'pitting or rust'. Hollands also stamped the rifle serial number into the hidden edge of the top of the butt that fits into the wrist socket and at the underside tip of the lower fore wood - along the barrel bore axis (other factory serials are seen here wrapped around the fore wood - around the barrel axis). The left side receiver wall has the "angled transition" (just below the ejector screw) which is a Savage (rather than British-made) feature, so its one or the other of the New World manufacturers, but I don't know if Long Brach also did the same thing? Singer and other producers (Savage has been observed). This mark sometimes appears alone and sometimes with another forging contractors mark, which suggests that Tinsley supplied steel to several of the socket forging contractors. II: Singer in Scotland, the Savage Stevens Co. in the USA, and Long Branch in Canada. N30 over H&B (pictured at left). Mid Band - This fabricated example is marked for S126 (C.E. The factory site was razed to accommodate (apartment) flats in the mid-1980s. S51 was already the war time production code for Holland and Holland - there were to make components under this code as well as convert No4 rifles tot he new T specification beginning in early 1942. However, these scabbards are encountered far too frequently for only 25,000 to have been made. by Saxon Cross 22 Mar 2012, 21:33, Post 4Mk. by verdenpark 30 Mar 2012, 08:34, Post The M47C is typical, as is the date and TR mark. AA5081 is the stores catalogue number. Length: approximately 44 inches, Barrel Length: approximately 25 inches. The butt stock above was taken from a real BSA No4T - it is clearly a service replacement - but not by a British armorer - the serial number for the rifle is stamped with 2 sets of numbers - on 3/8" and the other 1/4" - rather crookedly. The Lee-Enfield rifle was first adopted by the British as a military arm in 1895 and . Unlike other makers of No. The British No. No4 mk1 is stamped on the side of the reciever. These rifles can often be identified by the stacking hook welded to the upper band. The labelling indicates that this No. III was declared obsolete in 1946. 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There are almost 2 years of rifle production that did not receive this triangular sling swivel at the factory and would have it added in service - especially prolonged Cold War British service - it is still possible to encounter a rifle that was an early discharge / loss that never received the triangular swivel update. 1 rifle), but changes were made to the. by Saxon Cross 23 Mar 2012, 13:50, Post This article, "Exploded View: Lee-Enfield No. 4 Mk. xref So it figures that the right S51 is almost always from Hollands and there are less of them due to service attrition than there are real No4Ts that can evidence them. Canadian Arsenals marked their bayonets with an "A" nested inside a "C". Prior to their creation a variety of WWI sniper rifles were in use. II was, by far, the most numerous variant, with over 3.3million units produced. Recent research by Graham Priest determined that "TRM.1", "TRM.2", and "TRM 3" identify the Tinsley Rolling Mills Co. Ltd. of Sheffield. Piece of cake rebarreling the old No4. Seen in the picture above are the places where the serial number and manufacturer can be found. Prince-Smith used four different markings: Howard & Bullough Co. of Accrington, Lancashire, was one of the smaller makers of the No. Home Articles Guns & Parts Suppressors Optics & Thermals Ammunition Gear News & Opinion Columns Museums & Factory Tours ID Guides Interviews Event Coverage Articles by Issue Volume 1 V1N1 (Oct 1997) V1N2 (Nov 1997) V1N3 (Dec 1997) V1N4 (Jan 1998) This revised specimen was the best of its type and was still in use by NATO forces. The new rifle was well regarded by the troops receiving them. The leather belt frog is of unknown origin. Weight unloaded is Nine pounds even (I weighed it!) 4 Mk. 1* is functionally the same as the Mk.1, but various changes were made in the design to make the manufacturing process faster. Most of these seem to have been released / imported in the 1980s. 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